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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2020, 09:24:50 AM »
I can't seem to make myself attracted to anyone but men. Androgynous men are beautiful. Men with the strength to admit they have feelings are nice. Drunken, yelling men are foreboden as a gigantic red-flashing-lights trigger. Strong soft snuggly men are liable to get claimed as my property because they're hawt.

Brains are sexy in anyone though. And out of anyone, when I preserve them lovingly in windex. :angel:

I am probably a cis woman but there are moments of uncertainty. I seem to have a parallel-universe gay man self, but he's way more dommy than me. Uh :uhoh: I mean!! I am very dommey too! I am in fact a goddess mistwess who pwns all teh mans!

Google 'genderfluid' and tell us whether or not that sounds like you.


I regret I am utterly unable to understand drag queens. I admire the art, but don't understand anything past that. How many are men who would rather be women? How many are men who are perfectly comfortable being men but enjoy artistic exaggerated roleplaying for a spot? Our site may not attract many who can answer these questions, but if they're out there, REGISTER and educate me/us.


Funny you should mention that, Ray! I have a Facebook friend, assigned male at birth, who has been doing drag for years now and has recently come out as trans (MtF, like me). I looked through her photos and there are dozens of pics of her lounging around in female clothing, looking so very much at ease. I hit her up in FB Messenger and said "are you sure you're not trans?" The resulting conversion led to one very cracked egg and a future appointment with an endocrinologist. I'm so excited for her I shed a few happy tears.

Most drag queens are cis men - gay or straight - who are just in it for the art and to make some cash performing. Think of it as a gender-based art form. Some cis women even do femme drag too; they're known as bio-queens.
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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2020, 03:36:54 AM »
AFAIK (trans folks please correct if I get any of this wrong), there isn't a solid line between drag artists, gender nonconformists and trans people. Part of that is there is some natural shifting of identities along that spectrum. Historically, before transgender was even a known term, many trans women were called, and called themselves, drag queens. The TWOC who kicked off Stonewall were known as drag queens at the time, whereas now I would refer to them simply as queens. :heart:

Trill, it's a good question, but in past times thinking about that I came to the rather ridiculous suspicion that I vary between cis and genderfluid, at which point I decided it was time I stopped thinking before I ate my own tail ouroboros style.
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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2020, 10:00:08 PM »
AFAIK (trans folks please correct if I get any of this wrong), there isn't a solid line between drag artists, gender nonconformists and trans people. Part of that is there is some natural shifting of identities along that spectrum. Historically, before transgender was even a known term, many trans women were called, and called themselves, drag queens. The TWOC who kicked off Stonewall were known as drag queens at the time, whereas now I would refer to them simply as queens. :heart:

@Ingenue - I'm so glad someone else mentioned the Stonewall thing in answer here!

While the "professional" drag circuit is about parodying performative femininity especially, there are plenty of "part-time" crossdressers who would consider themselves as "drag kings/queens" but who do it just as a "this is my going out/partying" kind of thing and not as being particularly a parody or performance, but equally, not as a permanent or essential self-ness.

Trans and Queer identities, by their nature, tend to defy clear boundaries. (This is almost an essential aspect of Queer Theory as it's expressed in social and philosophical works.)

So, yeah: I'm still genderfluid nonbinary and identify as bi because "pan" feels too all-encompassing where I find many genders attractive but also some not so much anyway :shrug:

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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2020, 11:01:40 PM »
I find trans women, pre- or post-"op" (there are many procedures a trans person might have in order to make him or her more comfortable with him-or-herself, and only a couple of them involve giving the individual a vagina and/or penis) adorable. I'm fairly bisexual, but I definitely prefer my "men" more feminine than masculine.

Also weak and defenseless, but that has little or nothing to do with bisexuality ...
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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2020, 12:49:12 AM »
Funny you should mention that, Ray! I have a Facebook friend, assigned male at birth, who has been doing drag for years now and has recently come out as trans (MtF, like me). I looked through her photos and there are dozens of pics of her lounging around in female clothing, looking so very much at ease. I hit her up in FB Messenger and said "are you sure you're not trans?" The resulting conversion led to one very cracked egg and a future appointment with an endocrinologist. I'm so excited for her I shed a few happy tears.

Most drag queens are cis men - gay or straight - who are just in it for the art and to make some cash performing. Think of it as a gender-based art form. Some cis women even do femme drag too; they're known as bio-queens.

@Trill Many thanks for the education! :worship: One of my favourite entertainers, actor/comedian Eddie Izzard, made his big debut on US HBO some years back (Dressed To Kill - 1999 if you want specifics and fuck your young arse), and I remember being so intrigued by his HBO special that post-shower I sat naked on the bed and watched the remainder of his special utterly starkers, and never laughed more. Eddie delivered this most brilliant act dressed in semi-feminine attire and sexy-as-fuck makeup. But more recently Eddie revealed that s/he feels transgender.

Right, that's about 20 years. Lots can happen. But what did happen gradually over the last decade is the intolerant public that terrorised gay people who never lifted a finger to hurt them have slowly reconciled that they shouldn't harm people who not only never hurt them but anyone else. That's a massive historical hurdle. [blah blah history you're welcome ps fuck you lot cos this silly site]. What matters is a person who just wanted people to feel better bared his soul and asked for understanding and approval. Empathise with both sides.
 


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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2020, 11:23:47 PM »
AFAIK (trans folks please correct if I get any of this wrong), there isn't a solid line between drag artists, gender nonconformists and trans people. Part of that is there is some natural shifting of identities along that spectrum.



Trans and Queer identities, by their nature, tend to defy clear boundaries. (This is almost an essential aspect of Queer Theory as it's expressed in social and philosophical works.)


I was about to vehemently disagree with you both but then my brain caught up with you and I realized that my transition, by its very nature, defies the traditional boundaries of gender. My initial reaction was based on the fact that I highly value my femininity, and the social demarcation imposed thereupon, as a means of asserting my target gender and consolidating and affirming my new identity. It's not uncommon for trans people to use 'traditional' gender roles and activities as a means of self-validation, eg. I was out having breakfast with the local pride group this morning and one of my trans male friends mentioned using power tools for the first time.

Trill, it's a good question, but in past times thinking about that I came to the rather ridiculous suspicion that I vary between cis and genderfluid, at which point I decided it was time I stopped thinking before I ate my own tail ouroboros style.

To borrow from Rick and Morty: that just sounds like genderfluid with extra steps.
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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2020, 04:26:20 PM »
Thems extra steps ain't always cancel out mathematic like.
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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2020, 01:13:14 PM »
Funny you should mention that, Ray! I have a Facebook friend, assigned male at birth, who has been doing drag for years now and has recently come out as trans (MtF, like me). I looked through her photos and there are dozens of pics of her lounging around in female clothing, looking so very much at ease. I hit her up in FB Messenger and said "are you sure you're not trans?" The resulting conversion led to one very cracked egg and a future appointment with an endocrinologist. I'm so excited for her I shed a few happy tears.

Most drag queens are cis men - gay or straight - who are just in it for the art and to make some cash performing. Think of it as a gender-based art form. Some cis women even do femme drag too; they're known as bio-queens.


@Trill Many thanks for the education! :worship: One of my favourite entertainers, actor/comedian Eddie Izzard, made his big debut on US HBO some years back (Dressed To Kill - 1999 if you want specifics and fuck your young arse), and I remember being so intrigued by his HBO special that post-shower I sat naked on the bed and watched the remainder of his special utterly starkers, and never laughed more. Eddie delivered this most brilliant act dressed in semi-feminine attire and sexy-as-fuck makeup. But more recently Eddie revealed that s/he feels transgender.

Right, that's about 20 years. Lots can happen. But what did happen gradually over the last decade is the intolerant public that terrorised gay people who never lifted a finger to hurt them have slowly reconciled that they shouldn't harm people who not only never hurt them but anyone else. That's a massive historical hurdle. [blah blah history you're welcome ps fuck you lot cos this silly site]. What matters is a person who just wanted people to feel better bared his soul and asked for understanding and approval. Empathise with both sides.


I'll second @RayPistonprowl on Eddie Izzard. Hilarious comedian and a great actor. He was in a great show called The Riches back in 07 or 08. I highly recommend checking it out.


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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2020, 07:48:19 PM »
Guess I would be bi curious. I mean I find women attractive or pretty but I am mostly only "attracted" to men. And except for a few very light experiences have only been with men. So yup. Bi-curious.

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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2020, 11:00:10 AM »
Bisexual but I'm always a top

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« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2020, 08:43:57 AM »
Guess I would be bi curious. I mean I find women attractive or pretty but I am mostly only "attracted" to men. And except for a few very light experiences have only been with men. So yup. Bi-curious.

I would gladly satisfy your curiosity... whether you want me to or not. :evil:
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Re: Straight/Gay/Bi/Trans/Curious?... Who's Who
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2020, 12:44:10 AM »
Straight. Wouldn't be against kissing or feeling up another female. But probably wouldn't want to get involved sexually with her genitals
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