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Buying & Selling Used Panties
« on: November 01, 2014, 10:12:26 AM »
Did you know there are people who buy and sell used panties?? I've only recently learned about this in the last few months or so and remember being shocked the first time I heard about it. I even searched websites because I remember wondering how that would even work. After that I never really thought much about it... until I received a note from somebody yesterday saying he saw my profile (on another fetish site), thought I was cute, and wanted to buy my panties.  :O   I was in shock at first, but then I started thinking... He was professional, not sleazy or skeazy at all in the way he approached me, and he said there would be no games, he's a generous buyer and would like to buy often, and then offered $100/pair. Now I have so many questions! I've been able to pick a few peoples brains about this (vanilla friends AND kinky mentors), but I'm also looking for opinions from experienced people and those who may have legal advice, and I knew my friends here might be the right audience.

1) How could I do this and keep my anonymity? He lives way, way, way on the other side of the country from me, but still. I don't want him knowing who I really am.

2) How would I receive the money in a legit way? My research already found that paypal is NOT the way to go (if they find out what you're doing, they'll freeze the money), but someone did suggest a private PO box. Is that safe or would that be even worse because I'd be using government owned property? Also, would it be suspicious that I was only getting letters from one guy? Someone else suggested gift card, but is that really the best way?

3) What are my legal concerns? I may live an X rated lifestyle, but my profession is very G rated. I would do everything by the book here, including reporting the added income in my taxes if it gets to be a lot. Getting arrested or charged for something illegal is not an option. I value my job and brand/image too much.

What it comes down to is, I don't need some weirdo finding me, I don't want to get arrested or fined some inordinate amount that I have no way of paying, and I don't want to lose my job. If this is an illegal venture, I want to know now. ... BUT IT'S $100 for each pair!!!

Thoughts and advice welcome. Pros AND cons, too. If you've ever bought or sold, please add your voice to this topic.

Thanks!!!

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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 10:22:30 AM »
Just thinking aloud.

Is there maybe some way to make a private auction on an auction website? They should offer some protection for payments and such. That doesn't help you get paid safely but it does make it a more businesslike transaction.

Otherwise, someone once suggested Bitcoin to me as the closest thing to an anonymous payment you could get. That would necessitate a whole bunch of cryptocurrency research and some of the advocates for it are... a little enthusiastic.
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 04:00:08 PM »
Sounds like you need your own version of Addie!  :thumbs:
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 04:00:38 PM »
We all need our own version of Addie!
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2014, 08:34:59 AM »
Well, I just fell down a rabbit hole.

Not entirely. I knew that there was a thriving trade in panties; I did not know there was such an objection to it that paypal would exercise an opinion, so to speak. Maybe set up a chain of POBoxes with a trusted friend? Payment goes to box A, holder of A forwards it to B who either IS you or forwards it to you. There may be a way to set up a chain of online payments too.

I'm so not good at clandestine stuff.
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2014, 01:40:32 PM »
So I've been mulling it over a bit more in the last 24 hours... I'm leaning toward getting an EssenceofRed amazon account where he could gift me $100. I have a friend who has become a professional bondage model AND personal Domme. Her website suggests how to pay her, but if you can't afford her, you can buy one of the outfits on her amazon wishlist and the website will send it straight to her without giving the buyer info. I know you can also give Starbucks gift cards via online as well, so I'm assuming other places have this option. Online gift cards may be the way to go. I just don't think I need hundreds of dollars worth of coffee, but I do frequent certain stores that may be worth looking into. Also, my vanilla business minded friends are insisting that selling an item of clothing can't be illegal so I'm feeling much better about that. Again, if anyone else knows something about this, please share.

Thanks for the ideas, Ingy and Moon!
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2014, 02:28:46 PM »
I couldn't see how selling someone's knickers could be criminally objectionable anyway. Tis just a mutually agreeable personal transaction between two people.  :shocked:
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2014, 03:44:20 AM »
To my knowledge it's not illegal. Services like PayPal have the option to limit the types of transactions they handle; it might be any sort of X-rated entertainment or product that they don't support simply because of international laws being so inconsistent around the world. The buying and selling of used undergarments has been going on for decades; in men's magazines there were often classified ads of women who solicited them and they almost always used PO Boxes. I'm not really familiar with Amazon's policies in terms of the buying and selling of x-rated equipment, products or entertainment but I imagine as long as you're not violating laws (for example selling actual sex) that you should be OK. As for using federal facilities like the U.S. Postal Service for shipping panties and receiving payment, why would it make any difference to them what you're selling? After all, if you were to purchase panties from Victoria's Secret online, they could conceivably ship them to you via the USPS and people buy and sell things through the USPS all the time.
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2014, 05:53:20 PM »
I use Paypal for everything, I don't see why you couldn't use that and still be anonymous. Shoot, I'd do it for $100!

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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2014, 06:08:59 PM »
I use Paypal for everything, I don't see why you couldn't use that and still be anonymous. Shoot, I'd do it for $100!
For a hundred bucks I'd want a picture of you in 'em. Proof of validity. Yup, you'd need to send me a picture of you wearing the panties. And nothing else.

How much would it cost me if your panties were worn during sex?

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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2014, 12:06:01 AM »
Actually, I do have to send a picture first. (no face, of course) Then he'll send me $50. Once he gets the panties he'll send the other $50. He said that's what he does the first time. After that it'll be $100 up front. I figure before I go get myself a PO Box, I'll try it a couple times first. If he likes my... smell... andthinks he's going to be a regular, then I'll get one. In the meantime, I'm going to go with amazon gift cards.
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2015, 03:47:40 PM »
Are we open for business then? What became of this.

I have a small collection, personally harvested. I've never bought online, though I was aware of such services being offered.

I'd have gone with a dummy email linked to a PayPal. All transfers marked as gift. Nicely anonymous and none of your info being given out. PayPal need never know what the gifts are for. People do it with used cellphones and other electronics all the time. Nice and easy. Safe. Anonymous for the sender. The only problem would come if you stiffed a buyer (rather than giving him a stiffie) and he complained to PayPal.

Cash is better than cards in the long term, IMHO.
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2015, 11:52:22 AM »
Are we open for business then? What became of this.

Unfortunately this was pretty short lived... which I suppose is good. I mean, if I had made too much money off of it, my good girl conscience would have forced me to claim the income on my taxes. All in all, I made $200 in two weeks!

The first one wasn't quite... dirty enough for him. He literally asked me to not wipe my ass so well. You'd be surprised how hard it is to not clean yourself thoroughly after going to the bathroom!! BUT for a hundred dollars, what's a day or two of feeling totally gross? (Plus, I like to live by the motto of, "your kink is not my kink, but your kink is ok". Who am I to judge what gets you off? I've got my own controversial kinks myself.) Anyway, I thought the second panty was significantly dirtier, but alas, I never heard from him again. Apparently it was still not dirty enough. *pout* And I even used my super cute white panties with little ruffle details, tied a cute bow around the package, included a hand written note, and sent him photos via email from the waist down wearing them before I packaged it. *sigh* We could have had a lovely give and take, long distance relationship...
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2015, 09:54:19 PM »
Thanks for the detailed response... I truly was intellectually fascinated by this and wanted to know.

I would have asked for a pair you'd given yourself a happy ending in. *sniff, sniff... ahhhhh...*

Now though...

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And I even used my super cute white panties with little ruffle details, tied a cute bow around the package, included a hand written note, and sent him photos via email from the waist down wearing them before I packaged it.

...you've given me something nice to think about. There is something precious and innocent in that, even knowing you were sending it off to a perv. I can imagine how... Red you were when you posted that packet.
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Re: Buying & Selling Used Panties
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2015, 02:33:00 PM »
Just thinking aloud.

Is there maybe some way to make a private auction on an auction website? They should offer some protection for payments and such. That doesn't help you get paid safely but it does make it a more businesslike transaction.

Otherwise, someone once suggested Bitcoin to me as the closest thing to an anonymous payment you could get. That would necessitate a whole bunch of cryptocurrency research and some of the advocates for it are... a little enthusiastic.

Yes, I've started selling my used underwear as well, at a SERIOUS discount! (2 for 1 - that kind of thing!). 
Unfortunately, my customer base is turning out not to be the one I had targeted but rather one which I would tend to avoid more than mere casual contact with!  Oh well, money is money!!!

 

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