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Offline FrodoKreuger

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No bruises...?
« on: August 04, 2015, 01:37:58 PM »
OK, perhaps an oddball question, and I won't explain the reason for asking right now, however can any of you advice of the multitudinous ways that one can enjoy S&M play without the possibility of leaving any bruising whatsoever? Spanking, flogging, clamps/squeezing, etc all have the potential to leave at least a little bruising. Even bondage has that possibility if someone struggles against the bonds as you play with their body. I'm looking for ways that can't leave any. Oh, I should add that I'm ruling out electrostim as well for other reasons.

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2015, 04:35:33 PM »
Wow, that's a tough one. I would go with wide, padded leather restraints for bondage. The wider the body area bound and the softer the restraints, the less chance for bruising. You may, however, have to create your own cuffs, collars, etc. for that purpose. Or something that covers the whole forearm or lower leg, like suspension cuffs, might do the trick.

As far as punishment goes, I'm at something of a loss. I can't think of anything that's guaranteed not to bruise, though I used to use a flogger made of a length of braided cotton rope that I'd unbraided and tied blood knots in the ends of every string. I don't think it ever bruised anyone I used it on, though it was quite sting-y and sometimes left scratches. If you want to avoid even that, unbraid the braided rope but DON'T put blood knots in the ends. It will be extremely soft and good for sensation play, but not very painful (EDIT: It will also tangle if you so much as look at it funny). You might also try toys involving feathers or a wertenberg wheel which, used properly, should not leave any marks on the skin.

But let's face it, there ain't much that's going to have NO chance of leaving bruises. Maybe you could try playing with Tiger Balm or figging?
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 04:37:21 PM by death2uall »
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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2015, 10:31:21 PM »
My ex bruised very easily so we used cloth under where the bindings were placed if we knew she had something going on where bruises would raise eyebrows or questions. We also didn't do things on areas where they could be readily seen. Not much of a way to ensure no bruises form that I know of with any kind of rough play though.

Lucky for us she would get bruises that she or we couldn't explain in any way so that helped explain some of what we caused together.

Sorry I wasn't much help, good luck. Also maybe share what you discover with the rest of us?

Found this, not sure how helpful it'll be to you.
http://www.asubmissivesjourney.com/community/2012-02-07-19-21-15/additional-resources/1426-bdsm-play-brusing
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 11:54:35 PM by Dark Desire »

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2015, 12:49:02 AM »
OK, perhaps an oddball question, and I won't explain the reason for asking right now, however can any of you advice of the multitudinous ways that one can enjoy S&M play without the possibility of leaving any bruising whatsoever?

Psychological "torture" can be just as fun as physical "torture", so you might focus on light sensation play spread out among many different areas and keep the "pain" in the psych realm. Someone mentioned wide leather restraints, and that's a good suggestion.

I gotta admit I'm intrigued by the why though. I'm going with "Ashley took up modeling or acting or some profession where her body is on display!" ;)

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2015, 05:48:43 AM »
Long sleeves? That's really all I got.
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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2015, 08:45:24 AM »
I gotta admit I'm intrigued by the why though. I'm going with "Ashley took up modeling or acting or some profession where her body is on display!" ;)

Heh, well it is about Ashley, though not for a modeling or acting career (though she can do a porn shoot for me any day). It' the recent health scare and resultant blood thinners etc. Her doctor advised her that not only could bruising be way worse than before but even bruising could cause a serious and harmful bleed. Now yes, on the one hand, I'm sure that I'm overestimating the danger, especially since although she's a masochist she's a mild one and I don't tend to bruise her anyway. On the other, even though s&m kink has been fun and important in our relationship (including "forcing" her to do things she should - like when she brattily object to taking medicine or letting me help at all I spank her or crush her nipples etc to convince her) I'd sooner give up such play entirely than risk harming her in any way, shape or form. So yes, I figure the ideal is to avoid any chance of bruising. Then we can carry on enjoying such play without fear on either of our parts. Perhaps I should just say on mine as she object quite strongly when I'm not her "Meaniehead."

So far, other than extremely light swats, I must say I've found the use of psychological "torture" to be best since all this health stuff happened, you're right, Addie. For instance, threatening to penetrate her butt with a finger, or to stroke her pussy, or (if she's in a position where I can do it) bending down to kiss and lick her feet. For various reasons, most of the time she finds them too challenging to bear and so it does work. I just know she, and I but she more, loves the pain aspect too. I'd like not to give that up.

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2015, 09:23:34 AM »
I was going to say that after a while of playing hard, the bruising can go away for some or the Dom has to get even harder. It's almost as if the skin gets thicker or the blood vessels adapt?? I don't remember the last time I bruised from a spanking. I can get pink, but it's always gone by morning... but then I'm a spanking slut. After reading your last post, however, that doesn't really work for you since you can't work on ANY build up. It sounds like it just has to stop.

One thought I had is along the idea of Addie's psychological torture. Sometimes the sound is scary enough. Hearing that whip snap on either side of me, nowhere near me, can be enough to bring me to tears. Sounds can be very frightening all by themselves because we know what it feels like when it's on us - and usually our imaginations are much worse than reality.
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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 10:16:43 AM »
Hmm... the sound idea would work but for one thing - she knows I will do everything I can to make sure any pain doesn't go beyond the enjoyable. I've done the "swishing the crop through the air" and "smacking the wooden backscratcher on my palm" but though she "objects" she then invites it by carrying on as was, sticking her tongue out, etc. She knows it's all in play so the sound, though initially a minor factor, just invites stronger play.

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2015, 12:36:53 AM »
*sigh*  I miss our more intense play...ah well, it won't always be like this @FrodoKreuger , you'll be back to your spanking, beating, flogging, pinching, biting, sadistic self again in no time at all :)   <3

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2015, 03:36:09 AM »
Seriously, break out the horseradish and start playing with figging!   :whistle:
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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2015, 11:17:34 AM »
Found it! I actually knew part of this already, but not the full extent. @ashley has always enjoyed me murmuring "You are my GOOD GIRL," in a slow growling voice. It seemed to send her all ooogly. Today, I got why - while this may affect a lot of subs, my girl is an autistic*, as she's mentioned before here, and sensory stimulation really hits many autistics powerfully. Today I asked if it was an autistic thing and she confirmed it. Then she introduced me to a couple of videos on Autonmous Sensory Meridian Response, a response some people have (especially autistics apparently) to cognitive and sensory stimulation that causes a pleasing tingling sensation in multiple ares of the body. To most of us it would just be light sensation play, but magnify this up by a thousand fold and you have something that is not only used in therapy but can be used in play for pleasure to the point that it can be intensely overstimulation. Doing this to the full - whispering, popping, whooshing, playing with her nipples, stroking her body, breathing in her ear, a light slap or squeeze for mild, safe pain, etc - she quickly starts begging me to stop while also wanting it to continue. Torture with pleasure, I like that.



*Theres a tendency among society to use people first language, so it may surprise some of the socially trained to hear me call her an autistic not a person with autism. Ask most actual autistics though and it's seen as a neurovariance and not a bad thing (I concur) and so it's a central part of their ID like race gender or sexual orientation. Therefore I use the term in respect and love.

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2015, 10:04:52 AM »
Tease and denial would count ?

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Re: No bruises...?
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2015, 02:23:28 AM »
Yes, tease and denial would count. In a sense, that's what I do with ASMR (mentioned above). Do things that cause her such stimulation and then, when I think it's time, give in to her begging me to stop and leave her wishing I hadn't in some ways. No, I'm not an emotional sadist, what makes you ask?

 

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