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Too tame?
« on: May 30, 2015, 12:46:22 PM »
Are we too tame? Yesterday, I posted a question that struck a nerve with some people. I also have other questions that I would love to ask, but I'm afraid that they are way too 'out there' for this board.

I guess my question is...

Are you mostly on the lighter side of rape, or like me, are there other darker secrets that you'd like to talk about, but feel you can't? If you have those darker secrets, would you mind sharing what they are?

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2015, 01:32:34 PM »
The problem with the question you posted about abusive relationships was not that it was too intense. It struck a nerve with many (including those who have experienced domestic violence in real life), because you phrased your question in such a way that it blurred the lines between fantasy and reality. Admittedly, when I first read it, my head exploded, because it seemed to me that you were talking about real life.

That was the problem, not the subject matter per se.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2015, 01:37:58 PM »
The problem with the question you posted about abusive relationships was not that it was too intense. It struck a nerve with many (including those who have experienced domestic violence in real life), because you phrased your question in such a way that it blurred the lines between fantasy and reality. Admittedly, when I first read it, my head exploded, because it seemed to me that you were talking about real life.

That was the problem, not the subject matter per se.

Ok, I understand that. Getting back to the question...

I guess my question is...

Are you mostly on the lighter side of rape, or like me, are there other darker secrets that you'd like to talk about, but feel you can't? If you have those darker secrets, would you mind sharing what they are?


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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2015, 01:45:02 PM »
Ok, I understand that. Getting back to the question...

There is no reason to be so dismissive of my answer. You did broach the issue of yesterday's  thread and seemed to be implying that the problem was with the overly delicate sensibilities of others rather than with the way you phrased the question.

None of your questions are too "out there" for this board. The only thing that is objectionable is your blurring of the fantasy/reality line.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2015, 01:45:59 PM »
I definitely have very dark things that I need to talk about, but at the same time there are some things that make me feel very uncomfortable and I tend to avoid. The "abusive relationship" one, I admit it was a topic that unsettled me quite a lot, for the reasons D.A.E. outlines. But I know some of my things unsettle others too, so I don't feel the need to let others know about my unsettled feeling unless it's really intruding and hard to avoid. (My "Family" story was kind of a response to something that bothered me a lot in other stories, for instance.)

So, very much not the lighter side (except maybe there's a few scenarios that could be).

As for darker secrets: I think the storyline I described in the "How Do You Orgasm?" thread is one of them (and the closest I come to the Stockholm or long-term scenarios people describe). Then there's things like prison, or execution (or the build-up) and either being guilty or innocent, are both very dark things for me because of the emotional context. It's quite hard to know what others think of as "too dark". Because they're all nightmares...

Edit To Add: another really nasty/dark storyline for me is along the lines of the comment I made about Death Proof on the "abusive" thread: being either abandoned to be raped just because it's convenient, or being the one who abandons a friend to that fate, or purely selfish and momentary pleasures or convenience. (i.e. nothing important depends on anything but doing it anyway.)
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2015, 04:36:44 PM »
Are we too tame? Yesterday, I posted a question that struck a nerve with some people. I also have other questions that I would love to ask, but I'm afraid that they are way too 'out there' for this board.

I guess my question is...

Are you mostly on the lighter side of rape, or like me, are there other darker secrets that you'd like to talk about, but feel you can't? If you have those darker secrets, would you mind sharing what they are?

I hope feeling criticised isn't the reason you've turned off your wall posts and stripped down your profile. :(

I am most certainly NOT tame, and encourage you and everyone else to post whatever's on your mind. One of the things I most admire about you is your fearlessness in posting questions that explore dark territories.

Your 'abusive relationship'  thread, which I think is the source of this question, was to me clearly posted in a fantasy bit of the board (Other Fetishes), though I think it might have worked just as well under BDSM.

I don't think you need to label everything in such sections clearly as being FANTASY, as it should be presumed, but every now and again you may accidentally trigger someone who is having difficulty with that line between fantasy and reality. Yeah, it will derail the thread and pull those trying to fantasise out of their fantasies, but such comments do add a perspective to such discussions that is really rather inevitable and valuable to fleshing out that line between fantasy and reality. I suppose you could direct someone who wants to discuss the real-life stuff to a new thread in the Support section so the fantasy thread remains relatively intact.

Most of all I do not want anyone feeling like they can't talk about something here. With the exception of rule-breakers, post whatever you please and keep a thick skin handy for when you accidentally trigger someone.

EDIT: I'm asking for feedback on how to more clearly organise the boards so visitors can tell what's fantasy-oriented vs reality-oriented: http://www.rapecage.com/forum/index.php/topic,936.msg53265.html#msg53265
Give me your thoughts, everyone?
« Last Edit: May 30, 2015, 05:01:46 PM by RayPistonprowl »
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2015, 04:46:40 PM »
Good question S2U, and I have a slightly complex answer to it.

I am pretty tame 90% of the time, but sometimes not. I don't think I can always place myself simply on a scale of tame/not tame because I do sometimes become interested in some much more crazy stuff than usual.

I don't think any questions, as long as they abide by the rules and are reasonable, are too "out there" - I genuinely think this is the most understanding bunch of people in the universe and will always give you a listen.

I certainly will and I hope there is plenty of patience all round for misunderstandings to be cleared up. I know you would never, ever condone or wish ill on anyone, it's abundantly clear just from listening to you that that's the case.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2015, 08:00:59 PM »
Well I'm the one who it 'Struck a nerve with'...if you want to put it that way,I do think I mentioned at the end of my first post that it was 'Each to their own and all that'-and also said in my second post that I wanted to make it clear I in no way shape or form think it's up to me to judge etc on peoples fantasies.

All I did was make a post explaining the reality of a fantasy,I suppose you could call it the dark side of it..a fantasy explained in real terms,it was never intended to drive someone to think they couldn't post anymore topics etc,but yes,it did strike a nerve with me,it had to,you don't go through something like that and it doesn't affect you,even years later.

I'm not a big thread starter and I don't post much in the rape topics,why?,cos I don't even have the fantasies much anymore,my fantasies have shifted in a whole new direction.

I would also like to make it clear that in no way was I criticising S2U.I would've hoped people knew me better than that.

So this isn't a flounce but I think out of the two of us S2U has more to give to the board than I do,I made a post that was perhaps a trigger reaction to a scenario I lived through-that's it,but if it causes a poster to consider their position on the board,when they contribute such good and interesting threads-well I think it's best if I hit the high road instead.

It's been great fun knowing you all.  :x






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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2015, 11:32:04 PM »
@wetslut @Surrender2U

There's no need for either of you to leave. You're both great contributors. Like on any board, there will be misunderstandings, and the solution is to clear up the misunderstanding, not get upset and leave.

It appears this problem is part of a pattern where people who are trying to fantasize get pulled out of their fantasies by others who want to discuss related real-life stuff. It's all valid, but both really need their own sections. I'm in the process of trying to more clearly label the board sections so that both groups (fantasy vs. real-life) can avoid stepping on each other's toes. Input is welcome.

And to answer your original question at the top, S2U: Everyone should feel free to say what they want to say, but doing it in appropriate sections may help keep some from being triggered and others from getting pulled out of their fantasies.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2015, 11:41:27 PM »
@Surrender2U   I shall answer your question.  Yes...there are a lot of things that I am into and enjoy that are not talked of much on here for various reasons.  One of which being the very issue at hand right now...which I will delve into in a separate paragraph so as not to link you to my opinion. There is truly only one member of this board that knows me well enough, or at least did, to know the type of things I enjoy. If you would genuinely care to discuss, read some of my works or message me...wouldnt mind catching up to...errr rather...with you.   >:) 

Okay now my opinion on the rumblimgs that go on here.  *stands up*

First, when you enter this site, there is a disclaimer there saying this is a fantasy site and for fantasy discussion is there not?  As adults, EVERYONE needs to remember that.  Just because I talk about wanting to grab an ex, put a gun to her head and rape her, does not mean the next time I would happen to see her...Im going to do it.  More than likely, Im buying dinner or a drink.  This is the internet folks..fantasy land heaven.  My opinion..mine...is that there are people who are knee jerk sensitive to a lot here and should really understand that the implied understanding is that this...is...a...fantasy...sit e. 

I know and frequently talk to a person here who has this very issue, where the words seen here are taken to heart and affect her deeply because of a real life incident.  We talk about this very subject a lot.  Its the internet, you can say and be anything you want.  This is supposed to be a place where people can talk about fantasies they have and question if others have them without it becoming an issue of "implications".  Coming to a fantasy site implies its fantasy already.  I in fact just recently saw an old post on the games board I posted where someone turned a joke...a joke about pictures, into some sort of crusade.  I dont normally get into these things, because its the internet.  This seems to be happening a lot on here though and as it was a question within a question, I chimed in.

Everyone should stay, and remember this is a fantasy site. 

EDIT: I wrote this apparently while Addie was typing her reply....good idea @Addie 
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2015, 12:24:29 AM »
Yes...there are a lot of things that I am into and enjoy that are not talked of much on here for various reasons.

Are you mostly on the lighter side of rape, or like me, are there other darker secrets that you'd like to talk about, but feel you can't?

@Surrender2U & @The Demented Wizard
About the above: I would really like to hear the stuff you guys aren't talking about, as well as the reasons you're not talking about them. This thread is in the Rape Fantasy Discussion forum so let your freak flags fly!

Everyone should stay, and remember this is a fantasy site. 

I agree that everyone should stay, and it's true that this is a fantasy site, but I'm also aware that some people are here more to explore real life issues (like why they have rape fantasies at all!) and don't want to get accidentally triggered by the rape fantasy threads. I'm trying to be considerate of them too. It's just a fact that many people who discover rape fantasy start their exploration pretty confused, and they may get triggered and upset for a while until they can safely separate rape fantasy from rape reality.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2015, 12:26:42 AM »
Nicely put Demented Wizard!

@wetslut Please don't leave, I hope the PM I sent helps some.

@Surrender2U Don't you leave either! Post what you want and fuck everyone else (except the mods) who have a problem with them!

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2015, 02:01:30 AM »
Nicely put Demented Wizard!

@wetslut Please don't leave, I hope the PM I sent helps some.

@Surrender2U Don't you leave either! Post what you want and fuck everyone else (except the mods) who have a problem with them!

@wetslut @Surrender2U both of you feel free to fuck me. Just sayin' .  :naughty: And stay, please.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2015, 04:40:20 PM »
Are we too tame? Yesterday, I posted a question that struck a nerve with some people. I also have other questions that I would love to ask, but I'm afraid that they are way too 'out there' for this board.

I guess my question is...

Are you mostly on the lighter side of rape, or like me, are there other darker secrets that you'd like to talk about, but feel you can't? If you have those darker secrets, would you mind sharing what they are?


I guess for the most part, I am on the lighter side of rape.  The amount of pain and violence that I want to impart to my victims is on the milder side.  For example, yesterday, I was looking at images of punishment on tumblr and was skipping over the pics of heavy whip marks and broken skin.  That is too much for me.  On the other hand, the gifs of girls who were having their pussies spanked and paddled were doing it for me.  I've fantasized about being able to whip a woman with full strokes, but wondered if in RL I could find a whip that had very soft thin tendrils, so as to not really hurt her too badly. 


So would you define mass gangbangs as light?  Or dark?  To me, it's a huge turn-on for a woman to be trapped and used and abused hour after hour after hour by a seemingly endless line of hard, demanding dicks.  To see her resisting, then tiring, relenting, and finally humiliated and debased is my ideal.  Is that dark?  Well, folks in the real world would likely think so, but on this board, I'm not so sure.  It seems that there a fair number of folks here who are into blood, bruises, and even death. 


The only "dark" thing of which I cannot speak is something that is on the forum's no-no list.  I'll just say that it doesn't involve anyone who hasn't hit puberty, and it isn't about goats.   :whistle:

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2015, 06:28:33 PM »
The only "dark" thing of which I cannot speak is something that is on the forum's no-no list.  I'll just say that it doesn't involve anyone who hasn't hit puberty, and it isn't about goats.   :whistle:

You fap to spamming? ;)

So if it isn't child porn or bestiality, what is it ?? I need a rules refresher apparently ....
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