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Offline Carlosdevil

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2015, 02:51:59 PM »
Nobody is suggesting that rape and sexual abuse survivors shouldn't be here. What I'm saying is that as an outgrowth of rape fantasy there are things that are going to be discussed here that may trigger traumatic memories and as such be an unpleasant experience for them. That is simply a by-product of what this site is; are you suggesting that we shouldn't freely discuss our fantasies for fear that it might offend or bother someone?


The point to my response is this; I agree that people join this site for different reasons. Some to get their rocks off, others to deal with truly awful shit. What this site IS is a place where all of that can be done in relative safety.


Certainly people have the right not to like a topic or a post; of course they do. I'm not even saying they shouldn't express that dislike. What I AM saying is that they shouldn't say "You shouldn't have posted that thread" anymore than someone should say to them "You shouldn't express your opinion." If we have lost two wonderful members of this forum (and indications that in the case of S2U it is not the sole reason or perhaps even a reason at all), then that's a loss for all of us. Certainly, express your dislike for a subject by NOT reading it or even say "This subject bothers me" but remember, you're (and I don't mean you specifically in any of this Siren, just a general "you") not the only person in this forum who has undergone trauma and those who you might be upbraiding may need this place as much or more than you. In any case, just as people have a right not to have their objections thrown in their face with "But this IS a Rape Fantasy Forum" people also have a right not to be made to feel like insensitive jerkwads for posting something that they fantasize about because it inadvertently bothers someone else. Both sides of the street should be given equal consideration.


Thanks for responding Siren and please know I truly value your thoughts. At the end of the day, both of us seem to be on the side of free expression; hopefully discussing these sorts of issues will help us all be more sensitive to one another's needs as this site moves forward.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2015, 03:56:46 PM »
are you suggesting that we shouldn't freely discuss our fantasies for fear that it might offend or bother someone?

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Certainly people have the right not to like a topic or a post; of course they do. I'm not even saying they shouldn't express that dislike. What I AM saying is that they shouldn't say "You shouldn't have posted that thread" anymore than someone should say to them "You shouldn't express your opinion."

I don't think that is where Siren is coming from. My feeling is that she's just asking for compassion when someone does express their distress or upset at a subject. I'm the person lysyn referenced with respect to my "forced sterilisation" thread, and I feel very pleased that she felt I handled it properly. I felt bad that I might have upset her with my post, so I checked in.

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In any case, just as people have a right not to have their objections thrown in their face with "But this IS a Rape Fantasy Forum" people also have a right not to be made to feel like insensitive jerkwads for posting something that they fantasize about because it inadvertently bothers someone else.

Well, to be honest I did feel like an insensitive jerkwad when lysyn commented on my thread. That's because I take things personally, and I worry if I feel someone has been hurt. But deep down, I am not (or work hard at not being) an insensitive jerkwad, so my concern was to make sure she was okay, not to defend myself or excuse myself.

And I think that's the sort of compassion Siren was looking for. We're here to talk about things we know are likely to trigger other people who are here (Lord knows there are threads I avoid because they bother or trigger me), so I think it's on us to be sensitive and caring when someone expresses that they have been upset or have unresolved issues with a topic. It's not on them.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2015, 03:59:39 PM »
I appreciate every ones responses, however I think it's best if I leave RC as well.


I wish everyone the best.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2015, 04:22:42 PM »
I wish you wouldn't leave @The Siren, take a break but come back to those that do like you.  :*

I can also say that S2U has it planned to return at some point but is not sure when it will be right now.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2015, 05:00:57 PM »
@kittyumbrass While I don't disagree with what you say I have to voice, just because someone is hurt it shouldn't give them a right (or a pass) to be an asshole. I am not directing that at anyone just something in general.

We all gotta get along here and it takes all of us trying to get along for that to happen.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2015, 05:40:37 PM »
just as people have a right not to have their objections thrown in their face with "But this IS a Rape Fantasy Forum" people also have a right not to be made to feel like insensitive jerkwads for posting something that they fantasize about because it inadvertently bothers someone else. Both sides of the street should be given equal consideration.

This is the balance we're trying to strike, aye. I'm understanding that multiple people are here not for rape fantasy but for other reasons related to their own healing, and it's often emotional and stressful territory, so I'd simply encourage everyone who gets upset to step back, feel better, and return when you feel ready to face contrary viewpoints again. they're inevitable, even moreso on the Internet where people tend to get more aggressive. I can't tell anyone to stay, but I can tell them that they're welcome here same as anyone else who respects the rules!
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2015, 06:52:35 PM »
@kittyumbrass While I don't disagree with what you say I have to voice, just because someone is hurt it shouldn't give them a right (or a pass) to be an asshole. I am not directing that at anyone just something in general.

We all gotta get along here and it takes all of us trying to get along for that to happen.

Maybe this is where I'm confused because I don't see where anyone was being an asshole. I really don't.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2015, 05:00:53 PM »
Maybe this is where I'm confused because I don't see where anyone was being an asshole. I really don't.

Perhaps the alleged assholery ( lol ) occurred in private ?
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2015, 09:29:41 PM »
Are we too tame? Yesterday, I posted a question that struck a nerve with some people. I also have other questions that I would love to ask, but I'm afraid that they are way too 'out there' for this board.

I guess my question is...

Are you mostly on the lighter side of rape, or like me, are there other darker secrets that you'd like to talk about, but feel you can't? If you have those darker secrets, would you mind sharing what they are?

Yes, it appears some of us are to tame and they want to enforce their morality on the rest of us on this fantasy rape site. Keep in mind it is not for anything we have done wrong but because they read to much into posts or want to make their triggers ours too. I have enough of my own thank you very much I don't need or want yours!

I always thought I was in the middle in rape fantasy but I'm starting to think I am a freak here on RC.

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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2015, 11:11:57 AM »
Ach holy crap.

First things first..

Any assholery(Credit Ray for the word!)in private wasn't from me,I've spoken to someone very close to S2U to pass on my email addy and we're going to have a chat and clear up this whole misunderstanding-Again I stress..I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT ANYONES FANTASY!!!-I have no gripe with S2U,I have no gripe with anyone.

Something just struck a nerve with me that day,subject close to my heart blah blah blah-you know the story,on another day it might not have bothered me,and if it did I probably would've just let it ride by,I can't even blame PMS,Shitty day-can't blame any of it,just at that time it hit home.

No one should tip toe around anyone,but yes-sometimes things will strike a chord with people,that's only natural,there can be good strikes,as in someone posting something say about BDSM and a poster who practices it having a smile and thinking 'I remember when we did that at home-it was great',on the other hand sometimes things get remembered for bad times sadly.

I said elsewhere that my key is remembering none of this is my reality,my reality is separate and unfortunately I let it cross over that day.


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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2015, 03:23:27 PM »
Is it too late for the stoner to walk in an hug everything back into order?
*offers spliff*
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2015, 04:25:26 PM »
I always thought I was in the middle in rape fantasy but I'm starting to think I am a freak here on RC.

You are a freak, but not because of that. :D

People will disagree. I can't stop it. Just put people who annoy you on ignore. I'll intervene only when someone crosses the line into harassment. I do like Rosy's idea of hugging it out though.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2015, 05:10:24 PM »
Me too, easier to grope people that way.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2015, 11:26:23 PM »
 :grouphug:
theeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go.


Being that there was actually a question, I'll go ahead an answer because it was rather interesting.


I do like the darker sides of rape fantasy.
I'm not ashamed to say that when I've trusted another roleplayer enough, I have asked to recreate real life events that have happened with me. I do this only with people I trust and find to be very talented writers in roleplay. Why? Because it makes me feel better. The grittier and more real it feels, the better. Because I have control. I have control over that scene because I'm fortunate enough someone else will let me lead enough on the scenario for me to recreate it. I can back out at any time. I can put up a fight where I hadn't before. I can twist it into something that makes me feel better. And I like that.


I don't think having bad experiences means we should shy away from subjects. In fact, as far as real-life goes, we are the experts on them. Just this evening, @well_hung_jack and I stumbled on to talking about gangbangs. Anyone who read my survivors post knows I have been on the RL receiving end in a bad way. Did I flinch at the mention of gangbang porn? Naturally. Even when my own fantasies involve gangbangs (and sometimes they very much do. I, in fact, had a RL kidnap/gangbang roleplay) I feel a slight twinge. But that's my thing to deal with. That twinge is mine, and I chose to use it.
For the sake of making my point clear, we'll stick to the gang bang thing.
There are threads about 'sharing your fuckmeat' (giggle). I made a conscious decision to go into that thread for the sake of contributing, even though I was a little low at the time and it wasn't necessarily a subject for me. But I won't insist on going into threads to express my offence of my real-life experience. After all, this site is divided into real and fantasy, and in the expression of fantasy is where we are.


Back to the question, no. I've never been uncomfortable discussing any of my fantasies.
But we could have guessed that based on the fact that @kittyumbrass greets me in the shoutbox with a katana to the stomach.
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Re: Too tame?
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2015, 07:23:05 AM »
When @Rosary dragged me in here I knew it couldn't be for my smarts so naturally assumed it must be for my sweet fancy looks.  So is this a sexyfuckers anonymous meeting?  Fine, well okay then let me get the customary greet outta the way:


"Hello everybody, my name's Jack and I'm a sexyfucker."


Oh no, hold the mayo, this CAN'T be a sexyfuckers anonymous meeting...  Ray's here.


 :))   :jk:


Back on topic though, I think it's really hard to know how to take people and their motivations when the typed word carries so little of the tone and expression that our voices and bodies do.  Misunderstandings seem rife as we all fumble our way clumsily through justifications and explanations of why we're here and what we're looking for.  These days I'm SUPER careful who I pick for roleplay, not because I think people are 'too tame' but because I don't want to hit triggers or scare people away.


I used to roleplay fairly regularly on RB and then RD but have elected to abstain thus far from a single rp on this site.  A common problem back in the day was that girls would stop the roleplay because they thought I was GENUINELY angry with them!  In the fantasy I'd be shouting abuse at them and roughing them up a little and then they'd stop the rp and be like "hey, are you really angry with me?  What am I doing wrong?".  I'd be really nice about it and try to carry on after a gentle explanation but once the flow is broken and the fantasy stopped it's pretty much fucked for me.  BONER KILLER!!!  lol


I do think society in general is becoming ever more tame though.  We're being taught that every opinion has value, everybody deserves to be respected and that offending somebody or hurting their feelings is tantamount to an assault on them!  We've taken a sharp u-turn from the natural order of 'survival of the fittest' and have turned our society into some sick abomination where even the weakest stand equal on an artificially level playing field.  When absolutely everything is given equal value regardless of its actual merit then EVERYTHING becomes worthless and diluted.  I believe that a lot of people need to tough the fuck up; the real world is brutal and unforgiving.  The kiddies sandbox of our society has stunted emotional development in many people to the point where they can't cope in a healthy and productive way with personal issues.  So they shout and scream and cause a fuss, blaming everybody but themselves for their inadequacy to deal with shit.  This website is no sanctuary from these people or this sick cultural trend.


Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of tough people on here who DO confront and try to deal with their issues and I take my hat off to these true warriors.  But it's hard to know how what you say in a role play will effect a total stranger...


...And that's why I don't rp anymore you tame bastards!  ;)   :))
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